The talk will gravitate around a mix of Tomato and art school projects. The main themes explored are ‘opening oneself to the idea of process as a strategy’, ‘work as a playful approach’ and ‘why should we interact at all?’. The origin of the title of this talk is a heated debate about interactive projects, their place in the world and how they fit in. I will look at how they are perceived, spoken about and placed in context to art and creativity. Making things and speaking about them is the process of finding a common history.